when i interviewed for my position my now boss asked me why i didn't have a degree.
my mind filtered out "well you see sir i wasn't allowed to go to college and without that hope basically glided through high school and then went to a trade school so that i could eat.
" instead i told him that it was one of my major goals.
That's awesome! I was in my mid-30s when I started going back to school and I found it very rewarding.
I love your line about not telling your employer the real reason why you didn't go to school when you were younger. I always tell people that I got some bad advice but am making up for it now.
Congrats!
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18798.
don't try to convert me, please by: lewis grizzardtues oct 23, 2007 9:05 am edt.
macon,ga.- religious freedom is a wonderful thing.
Think of the families we can save if we hold them up for 10-15 minutes or
longer and don't even have to talk to them.
True and most JWs I know would be more than happy to stand at the door for 30 min rather than go try talking to someone. The other group working with you could finish the whole block while your waiting! Win - Win
this osce conference occured just this month.. .
http://www.osce.org/conferences/hdim_2007.html.
scroll down to ngos.
While I could understand why a religious organization, especially one that proselytizes like JWs would want to attend such a conference. Working the political process makes sense but I thought we believed that God's Kingdom was going to solve mans problems. I could come up with a bunch of quotes on how the WTS has over the years discouraged and outright banned using the political process to effect change. I've heard WTS representative compare working the political process to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Historically, the WTS has always used the courts, but ever since they realized that it is much easier to get things done by engaging in the political process (1992-UN
Affiliation ) its like they can't miss an internation conference of this sort. Of course, there's nothing wrong with engaging in this sort of discussion, it is the hypocrisy of forbidding me to try to effect change on a local level through the political process (voting will still get you df'ed in the US) while they go around lobbying international organizations with this objective:
The objective of the member nations of the OSCE is to guarantee the security of Europe as well as to foster the implementation of human rights, disarmament, democratic freedoms and the management of regional conflict.
Association of Full Gospel Christian Churches
B'nai B'rith International
Campaign Against Homophobia
Church of Scientology; Human Rights Office
Foundation of Regional Initiatives
Republican Association of Churches of Evangelical Christians-Baptists of Tajikistan
So, they can rub elbows with these folks (I had to put in the campaign against homophobia because they obviously haven't read any WTS literature) yet if I join the YMCA to use their workout facilities, I'm practicing interfaith??
Sorry about the red, not sure how to change it back. I know I shouldn't get annoyed but these guys are something else.
i don't hate the people.
i feel bad for many of them.
i don't like the religion because it is a cult.
I hate myself for believing as long as I did.
announced at my parents service meeting last night
Once again, JWD scoops the local congregation elder bodies. Cheers to all those with inside connections that immediately share it with the rest of us!
Man, I'm glad I don't have to deal with that BS any longer.
I agee that it is a ploy to "encourage" the remaining elders since they have lost so many in the last decade.
at the agm it was announced that all elders in the us will attend a weeks 5 days kingdom ministry school next year.
there will be a different class held at patterson each week until all us elders have attended.
not sure about other countries.
OTWO - I see what you mean and while there are a bunch of elders that would be gung-ho about going to Patterson for a week, there are a bunch more that will be very unhappy. I do agree that the sole purpose would be a move to keep the elders they currently have. I always remember coming away from those schools feeling like I was worthless and wanting to "step aside". Not sure even in my zealot days if this would have worked on me. Of course, this is still speculation but I'm also assuming its true until proven otherwise.
I'm wondering it there really is other big bad news or if this is just an attempt to make elders feel like they're special? I think if there's really bad stuff that's about to break, they would call a special circuit meeting to discuss it. This sounds like its going to take a year and I think it may be a similar program to the one the DO/CO completed a year or two ago (maybe a little longer than that). And, I still think a new elders manual will be released. No inside info, just a gut feeling.
at the agm it was announced that all elders in the us will attend a weeks 5 days kingdom ministry school next year.
there will be a different class held at patterson each week until all us elders have attended.
not sure about other countries.
JW Freak,
That confirms another post on here about the 5 day KM school. Are you sure its just going to be held in Patterson? Seems like they would have a difficult time pulling that off. Wouldn't it be easier to conduct it like a normal KM school? I attended a few where they flew in big shots from Bethel to conduct much of it. Of course, the WTS would have to pay for the Bethelites to go out vs having the local elders pay their own way to Patterson.
I agree that a new elders manual is on the horizon. Seems I heard that rumor a year or two ago.
The last KM school was conducted in late 2005, so its earlier than the normal pattern.
Sure am glad I don't have to go!!
this apparent change to the "generation" is pretty major i think.. when we consider all of the changes in understanding (i mean flashes of light!.
the 1995 change extended this old system by detaching the generation from 1914.. then the may 2007 wt qfr detached the gathering of the anointed from 1935.. now the latest change detaches the generation from all mankind except the small group of anointed.. and because of the 1935 detachment this could run for quite sometime.. most r & f jws will embrace this with both hands.
for me that is my greatest concern - millions will not even stop to think that we only had a flash of light about.
It has been my personal opinion now for a few months that they will find a way to alter the prophetic meaning of 1914. This would suspend into perpetuity the timing for Armageddon. They can continue to play the doomsday game with no actual date to obstruct. I believe that they are particularly concerned that 2014 will be significant in the minds of their adherants.
I agree but with a slightly different twist. They need 1914 with the 1919 appointment of the "faithful slave" to keep their power structure in place. However, the 1995 generation took the steam out of the average JW because it really moved Armageddon forward several years and thus with no axe over their heads, the work slowed down. The numbers are suffering (especially in the West) as a result. So, they need to ramp up the pressure on the mostly apathetic JWs in their big money countries. They've been burned too many times on date setting, so that's not an option.
The more I think about this, the more impressed I am with the diabolical genius that is the WTS. If spun correctly, they can use this new teaching the same way they used the pre-1995 teaching. They will point to the small number of annointed as proof the end is "very close". They will keep reporting the number, if it goes up in the next year or so with the dropping of the 1935 teaching that the door to annointing closed, then that's ok. They will hammer on the small number just like they hammered 1914. Soon, they will deemphasize 1914 (unless they occassionally use it to reinforce their appointment in 1919) and focus on world conditions (you can always find bad if you look hard enough).
Its date setting without a date and no expiration date. Brilliant
sorry to be so dumb.
i just don't understand what the new teaching is.. i understood pre and post 1995 but haven't been able to get the gist of the latest.. could someone please explain it so a low intellect like me can understand, please, please.. and thank you,.
yesidid.
AuldSoul,
Great breakdown of the previous explainations. While the details of the new change in the generation explaination need to be flushed out, I think its probably going to make as much since as the post 1995 explaination.
The 1995-2007 version was so convoluted and open-ended, I'm not sure why they are changing it. Many people I know who are seeming loyal JWs didn't buy the 1995 change and have told me so. Most actually still believe the previous version yet have no explaination for why that generation is pretty much dead now.
I'm really curious where they are going with this.
this will be raising it's ugly head in the next few years with my kids unless we're out by then.
so, did anyone attend their senior prom while still a jw?
were they a jw too?
OM,
My prom experience was pretty similar. I'm not sure I would have went if I wasn't a JW because I was pretty socially awkward and spent most of my teenage years in a depressed state (although I never shared that with anyone at the time). Was it being a JW that made me that way? Probably not. I'm thinking it sure didn't help me any!
I know of a situation that a MS who was dating a senior (he was probably 18-19) went and because his father was PO, nothing happened. But, the BOE had some pretty heated discussions over it. Sadly I was on the "remove him" side being the zealot I was.
I could easily see a person losing "privileges" or even the old man taking a hit for allowing his son/daughter to go. As you know, depends on how big of a deal the BOE wants to make of it. Get a group of born-in, no kids guys, I think they'd come down with both feet.
I have much bigger regrets over not being allowed to play sports than I do for not going to the prom!
